Scott,<br><br>I agree that deriving before input feels contrary to the "Graphite way" since functions are available to perform these actions. However, I put simple value differentiation in the initial release because I feel it would be a significant usability win: you could just click around in the Graphite UX and see graphs of the proper shapes, not a constantly growing "hill," without taking any additional action to apply a function.<br>
<br>Just yesterday I merged contributed code to add yet another differentiation feature, one that writes the time derivative between the difference. A number of people were bothered that Graphite was displaying values off by a factor of the Collectd collection interval (10[s] by default). Practically stated, CPU values were normalized at 1000 instead of 100, etc. Again, this is something that could be corrected by applying a scale on the data in Graphite. But, people /really/ wanted the feature.<br>
<br>Both differentiation features can be toggled by plugin options and are off by default. So, users have a choice and everyone is happy, assuming they have Python installed ;)<br><br>Greg<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
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<div class="im">On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Gregory Szorc <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gregory.szorc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregory.szorc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">
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Cool! You may be interested in my similar Python plugin. Mine initially had a very similar feature set as yours, but GitHub pull requests have slowly trickled in with new features, including deriving values. Feel free to reference/copy the ideas! <a href="https://github.com/indygreg/collectd-carbon" target="_blank">https://github.com/indygreg/collectd-carbon</a><br>
</blockquote></div><div><br>Thanks, Greg! I started with your plugin and moved to a compiled solution because python wasn't available on some of the hosts I am monitoring. Your work was a big help to me and a great source of inspiration.<br>
<br>I'm curious why you added the ability to send derived values to carbon. That feels contrary to the "Graphite way" of doing things, since derivative() and nonNegativeDerivative() provide the same functionality.<br>
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