<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Sebastian,<div><br></div><div>IMO this is basically what I wanted.</div><div><br></div><div>If I understand correctly it's going to be:</div><div><br></div><div>Szenario 1: just sending some information to our centralized server: apt-get install collectd-core</div><div>Szenario 2: setup my centralized server: apt-get install collectd</div><div><br></div><div>I thought that collectd-core might be misleading at first sight if I want only the most basic functionality, but </div><div>thinking about it, could not come up with a better idea either, so, I find the change very welcome, hope it will be out soon!</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for listening to user-feedback, makes us (at least me) feel appreciated :-)</div><div><br></div><div>best</div><div><br></div><div><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>-- <br>Raimund Sacherer</div><div>-<br>RunSolutions<br> Open Source It Consulting<br>-<br>Email: <a href="mailto:rs@runsolutions.com">rs@runsolutions.com</a><br>tel: 625 40 32 08<br><br>Parc Bit - Centro Empresarial Son Espanyol<br>Edificio Estel - Local 3D<br>07121 - Palma de Mallorca<br>Baleares</div></div></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span> </div><br><div><div>On Sep 30, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Sebastian Harl wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hi,<br><br>On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:49:53PM -0400, Moore, Joe wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Will this be the packaging for collectd 4.8?<br></blockquote><br>Yes. However, I'm thinking about doing an "unmodified" upload of 4.8<br>before (and follow up with the new packaging shortly after that) since<br>the new packaging will have to go through the NEW queue which is going<br>to take some time.<br><br><blockquote type="cite">In following with the apache example, maybe deliver<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">/etc/collectd/collect.conf.example, and have a debconf question to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">copy it into place?<br></blockquote><br>Are you talking about "collectd-core"? I'd rather like to avoid<br>introducing debconf in that package as well. Imho, copying a sample<br>config from /usr/share/doc/ is about the same amount of work as<br>answering a debconf questions (which, in turn, would, presumably, avoid<br>quite a few people in that case).<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Since the default apt behavior is to install-recommends, imo,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">collectd-rrd output would be a useful recommends (as opposed to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">suggests) to keep with the current usability.<br></blockquote><br>Well, that's what's being done in the new "collectd" package. librrd<br>will be recommended by that package. "collectd-core" is meant to be as<br>lean as possible.<br><br><blockquote type="cite">And in that case, the collectd.conf.example could still store its data<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">in the rrd format.<br></blockquote><br>I was thinking about providing sample configs for (at least) server,<br>client, proxy and write-rrds-locally-only setups.<br><br>Does that make sense to you?<br><br>Cheers,<br>Sebastian<br><br>-- <br>Sebastian "tokkee" Harl +++ GnuPG-ID: 0x8501C7FC +++ <a href="http://tokkee.org/">http://tokkee.org/</a><br><br>Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary<br>Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin<br><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>